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Bringing Inner Peace to Busy Minds

Embrace Nature’s Wisdom: Overcoming Stress, Anxiety, and Consumption

Introduction: In this episode, Steven Webb explores the concept of consumption in our modern world and how it often leads to stress and anxiety. Drawing wisdom from nature and Zen teachings, he discusses the importance of consuming less and embracing the idea that we are enough just as we are.

Album: Jack Savoretti – Between The Minds

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Timestamps:

  • [00:00:00] Introduction
  • [00:03:57] Discussion on the concept of consumption and its impact on our lives
  • [00:08:22] The importance of letting go of control and embracing the idea of being enough
  • [00:09:12] The story of the Zen Master and the overflowing cup
  • [00:12:39] A brief meditation practice to connect with our better nature
  • [00:16:51] Conclusion and final thoughts

Key Points:

  • Consumption, especially in our modern world, often leads to stress and anxiety.
  • Embracing the idea that we are enough just as we are can lead to a more peaceful life.
  • The story of the Zen Master and the overflowing cup illustrates the importance of emptying ourselves of preconceived notions and constant consumption.

Quotes:

  • “Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone. So too is our lives. Sometimes they become a little clearer, they become a little more peaceful when we reduce the noise and just reducing that constant consumption.” – Steven Webb
  • “You are enough. You have enough. Then fine, we’re going to consume more. But just in each given moment, just take a step back and enjoy what we have in each moment.” – Steven Webb

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Additional Podcast: Check out Steven’s other podcast, Inner Peace Meditations, at InnerPeaceMeditations.com.

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Steven Webb: Muddy water is best
cleared by leaving it alone.

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One of my favorite quotes
of all time, Alan Watts.

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So on today's podcast, we're
talking about embracing nature's

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wisdom, overcoming stress,
anxiety, and consuming less.

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One of those things that I'm trying
to learn to do, and I think the

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world as a whole needs to do that.

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However, before we get there, for
the last like two weeks, I've been

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working really hard on sorting
out my website, sorting out the

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stillness in the Storms website,
the Inner Peace Meditations website,

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and bringing them all together.

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So all of my podcasts and all of my
things are more easily accessible,

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and I had to update the link in
every single one of my podcast.

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And.

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I often think that I'm not delivering,
I'm not doing a very good job, and

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I miss weeks and things like that.

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And I think I'm doing a
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And I was going through them
last night and I've done 92 of

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them, and I was going through,
I was thinking, Hey, some of

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these aren't bad actually,
some of these are pretty good.

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And going, just going through
the titles and things like that.

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Boy, it took the, I was listening
to one of my favorite albums,

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Jack Savoretti and I went
through the whole album, which

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is a brilliant album, by the way.

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I'll put the album
title in the show notes.

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One of my favorite all time albums.

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It really is, it's one of those
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to again and again and again.

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And I put on the album and it
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to just go and copy and paste.

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, I was really hating the job
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end I was loving doing it.

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It's one of those things that you
just don't wanna do, and I thought,

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I'll tell you what, I'll be really
productive and I'll just do 10 each

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day for the next 10 days or so.

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But I got into it
after about doing 40.

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I was like, I'm really
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And then 50, I was like, okay, I'll
keep going 60, I'll keep going.

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And by the end I was like, this
has really given me some clarity.

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And it made me, it was almost like
I needed to see what I had achieved.

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And I think how often do we really go
back and look at what we've achieved?

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I might do a podcast on that.

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That'd be a good idea, but I
wanna say thank you to many of

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you that have bought me a coffee,
although I've changed it slightly.

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I'm always changing things.

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Us humans, they're always
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So I've changed it to virtual hugs.

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I don't really drink a lot of coffee,
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Buy me a coffee, buy me a
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So I've changed it at virtual hugs.

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So I wanna say thank you to Lucy and
Carol, and Dawn, Sarah Sanger, gin,

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and someone, someone, and v all of
you for treating me to a virtual hug.

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You guys, massive big hug.

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I hope you can feed it.

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I'm like squeezing
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You can feel my arms around you.

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Thank you guys.

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It really makes a difference.

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My podcast has just gone to
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a lot more now to host it and
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That's wonderful news because more
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More and more people are
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And I get emails, people that I
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I make sense in my head, but I'm
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and if it makes sense to you.

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Brilliant.

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That's awesome.

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So.

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I've sorted the website, so
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I've told you about my virtual hugs.

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I'm just going through some of my
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gonna get on with today's podcast.

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It's about consuming less, just
learning from nature really.

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So let's go through
to today's podcast.

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So in our modern world, consumption
is often seen as a necessity.

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We consume food, we consume material,
goods, information, even nature.

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We're consuming.

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And I'm f I'm finding my time now,
literally when I'm reading and

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YouTube and I'm just like, I want it.

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Oh, I want more and more and more.

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I want to learn more.

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I'm learning to speak
Cornish at the moment.

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I'm learning.

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The Cornish history, and I
just want more and more of it.

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But where do we strike a balance?

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Am I becoming more stressful because
I'm trying to get more and more?

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and but this constant cycle of
consumption, it brings about

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so much stress and anxiety.

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And as the philosopher Alan Wa
once said, muddy water is best

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cleared by leaving it alone.

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So two is our lives.

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Sometimes they become
a little clearer.

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They become a little more peaceful
when we reduce the noise and just

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reducing that constant consumption.

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And you I love this
analogy of the muddy water.

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The simple fact, you imagine a great
big pond and you imagine we're just

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throwing stuff in it all the time.

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How about we just let it settle
what we know now, the knowledge

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that we know, the wisdom we
got, the food is in our belly.

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Everything in our, just, just for
a moment, just go, that's enough.

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What if we have
everything in this moment?

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What if it's just enough?

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A wonderful thought.

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And beneath the surface of this hectic
consumption, below all our stresses

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and anxieties and fears, there lies
a deeper truth, a more profound,

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peaceful reality, often referred
to in Buddhism as Budd Nature.

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This is our true self.

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And unclouded by worldly
distractions and illusions.

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It's a sense of being just enough
just as we are just in this moment.

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Oh, what relief doesn't it just like,
oh, I don't have to do anything.

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I can just be now here.

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I don't have to consume anything.

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I don't have to push back on anything.

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Oh, you just wanna take a deep breath
and just let it all out, don't you?

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That's just that huge sigh of relief.

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You know, nature provides us with
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harmony without need to constant
consumption is an ageless

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wisdom that we often forget.

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You know, just look, look at the
parable of the Chinese farmer.

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That's one of my favorite ones.

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I'm just gonna have to look it up
a minute because I kind of know it,

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but I, I kind of often forget it.

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The Chinese farmer, this is
the famous zen story often

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recounted, and a Chinese farmer
had a horse that ran away.

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And when his neighbors learned
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farmer saying Such bad luck.

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The farmer replied, maybe the
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with three wild horses.

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How wonderful the neighbors explained.

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Maybe the farmer applied
the following day.

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The farmer's son tried to
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He was thrown off
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The neighbors, once again
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sympathy for the farmer's.

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Misfortune maybe answered the farmer.

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A day after the military officials
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the young men into the army,
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been broken, they pass him by.

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Neighbors congratulated the farmer
and on his good luck this time.

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But the farmer said maybe, and
the lesson here is, you know,

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you don't know what is in store.

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You know, I don't know
whether breaking my neck

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was a good or a bad thing.

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I don't know whether, you know,
being stuck in that traffic

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jam is a good or a bad thing.

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It might have saved
me from an accident.

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It might made me late
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Who knows?

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And I think when we have a
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it, it's just like, oh, we can
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trying to control everything.

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Does that make any sense?

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Just just that controlling
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things just so much easier.

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I have a genuine belief
that we do have everything

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inside of us that we need.

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Was it Marcus Aurelius?

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Very little is needed
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It is all within yourself in a way
of think, in your way of thinking.

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Very little is needed
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It's all within yourself.

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Okay.

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I butchered that.

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You, you know what I mean?

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You know, this perspective coupled
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a simpler, more peaceful life.

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You know, just another end story.

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The empty cup and
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We must empty ourselves of
preconceived notions and.

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And the story goes.

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A university professor went to
visit Zen Master while the Zen

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Master quietly served his tea.

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The professor talked about zen.

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The master poured the visitors' cup
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The professor watched him overflowing
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restrain himself, and he looked
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No more would go in the professor
blurted, you are like this cup.

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The master replied, how can I show you
Zen unless you first empty your cup.

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And it's just a really good
illustration of we, we go around with

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such a full cup, such a full mind,
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we are just trying to consume more.

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I was watching the TV program
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into this house and they emptied
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this huge hangar and they put it
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Ah, it's OCD person's dream.

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This is, I love seeing it all
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my house laid out like that.

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I don't wanna put it
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I just want all my socks laid out in
color and size that's a dream for me.

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I'm learning to not battle that
because not all my carers and

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not everybody I have look after
me has the same o c D as me,

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so I'm learning to let that go.

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It's taken a long time, but yeah,
I, when I grew up, I used to

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have all my tapes in color order.

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I used to have all my CDs numbered
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till I bought a new one and I had
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off and put them all in there.

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And yeah, if you look at my house
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O C D, but I, I think we all do.

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We like order, don't we?

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Because order makes
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It makes us feel that we're
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have some kind of order.

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And I think this is where we like to,
we choose what to consume, we choose

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what to put in the cup, but very
often we're at the point now where,

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Society's filling our cup for us.

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Society's bombarded
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You must learn this.

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You must consume this, you must
try this, you must have this.

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And it's just and I'm
doing the same again.

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I'm filling your cup again with
my thoughts and my beliefs.

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And you know what you need to do?

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You need to empty more.

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You need to do this.

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Oh, the irony.

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The, I the irony is not lost on me,
and I hope it's not lost on you.

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Just, yeah.

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Turn off his podcast and
just be, but the problem is

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we won't, we don't do it.

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I, you, the, the best thing
is like meditation practices.

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Just taking out a little
moment here and there.

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You know, let's do, let's do a
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I just warn you, if you're
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that, do it, but don't close
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and just, just take a breather.

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Let's connect with a better nature
to feel a sense of being enough.

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And as you breathe in,
just settle your mind.

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I say settle your mind.

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I mean, allow your mind to settle.

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And as you breathe out, let
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consume, any stress or anxiety,

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and you could repeat
the mantra in your head.

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I am enough.

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I am enough.

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I am at peace with myself and nature.

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And see how quickly we can go
from consuming to I am enough.

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I have enough.

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I am at peace with myself and nature.

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What a wonderful calmness.

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And we could do that anywhere.

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We could do it any time.

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Just keep your eyes open
if you're doing something

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that needs your attention.

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I'm not suggesting that, you know,
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and that's a really important point
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meditation as you know, chilling
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where you won't be disturbed.

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That's not real Meditation.

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Real meditation is when you're amongst
people, when, when you've got negative

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people around you, when the world is
going to pots, how can you stay in

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that meditative state at that point?

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How can you stay just
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And this is the point just above.

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If you are the true self, nothing's
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be just above just where the
compassion and the wisdom is.

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Where the material wisdom of the
self starts to form an ego, but

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before the ego starts to consume
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that ego, ego ness about it.

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Before that, you want to stay at that
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We've all seen that as Zen Masters
at the end of the bar when there's

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that big bar fight going on, and
they're probably not Zen masters.

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They're part, they're part
of the movies, aren't they?

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They're told to act like this, but
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end of the bar and he's had drinking
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And right at the end he
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bowman a tip, and walks out.

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You want to be that calm person.

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Didn't get involved.

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He had enough.

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He enjoyed his drink.

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So yeah, that's today's podcast.

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Just, you know, enough's enough.

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Stop consuming for a moment.

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Stop doing, just take a breather.

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Just have this moment.

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And I started this podcast by
telling you all the stuff I've

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been doing because we feel
like we gotta get somewhere.

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My mind's just reminded me,
you've got your new seat.

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It arrived today.

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It's been three months in the making.

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They lost it once.

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It come from Germany.

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Gotta get that put on at the weekend.

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Gotta do this.

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Don't the mind just, okay.

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I know.

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Thank you for the reminder.

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I've got this,

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so I'm going to leave
you with the thought.

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You know, you are enough.

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You have enough.

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Then fine, we're
going to consume more.

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But just in each given moment,
just take a step back and enjoy

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what we have in each moment.

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And the more we do that, the more
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you'll find the happiness that you're
searching for, the joy, the genuine

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nourishment, the genuine fulfillment
that you'll find is already there.

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It's already right here.

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You cannot want to be
happy and be happy.

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The fact that you go, I want to be
happy means you're already unhappy.

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You've already missed the mark.

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You cannot have two ways.

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We already are in a
state of happiness.

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We're already in a state of enough.

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We already have
everything in this moment.

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And just take a deep
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You know, this is a
pretty deep journey.

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You know, if you've come along in
this podcast with me a little bit,

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exploring the idea of reducing
consumption to find our true selves,

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that'll help us to overcome stress
and anxiety, and you can always head

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over to Inner Peace of Meditations,
my other podcast that'll help

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you to reduce some of the stress
and anxiety, always plugging.

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Always more always is.

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That's why.

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That's what life is, isn't it?

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It's a real difficult thing, but I'm
gonna leave you with Zen Master Banky,

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not sure if I pronounce that right.

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Abiding with the unperturbed
mind is the same as the peace

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and bliss of the Buddhas.

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Let's all strive to live with
this unbe mind consuming less,

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embracing our own better nature.

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Thank you for joining me today,
and thank you for the virtual hugs.

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You guys are absolutely awesome.

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Hope you can feel some of my love
for you and love for all of you.

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I hope you apply some of
these insights and I hope

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you find some stillness.

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That's all we need to do.

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Find those little bits
and moments of stillness.

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Remember, you are enough,
and in there there's a deep

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wisdom waiting to be embraced.

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Until next time, stay still,
stay present and stay strong.

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you can head over to.

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thankyousteven.com to download
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than about every three weeks.

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Take care.

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Love you guys.

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Bye.